Now that the Senator from the great state of Nebraska has been bought off to tune of about $300 million, details should start emerging as to what’s actually in the healthcare bill.
I’ll start the thread with this article entitled: Why America Hates Universal Health Care: The Real Reason. The theme of the article is a good starting point for discussion: “Why should we be forced to pay for the costs of other people’s irresponsibility?”



Dec 21, 2009
Brian Karpuk
I’ll get this one started. Apparently the nanny state will be imposing a 10% tax on the use of tanning salons….
Dec 21, 2009
Mike Beacom
I was really disappointed to hear about Nelson. Just one more corrupt politician. Who’s counting?
With regard to the article linked. I pretty much agree with every word. I’m a strong believer in personal responsibility. But I’m also a strong believer in social Darwinism. If we don’t let people fail, society is slowly weakened as a result. Plus, its when people are allowed to fail that I believe they really learn the valuable lessons in life. When you have constant safety nets, you never really learn to be self sufficient. The only thing I don’t like about that type of mentality is that the children (of the irresponsible parties) often take the brunt of the punishment.
In thinking about this healthcare bill, I’ve often wondered if it would be possible to make some sort of criteria for exceptance into the national pool. For example. Admit everyone day one, but if you’re obese, or smoking/drinking/drugging, you’ve got 6 months to get clean and/or make progress on your weight. If your health needs are determined to be caused by something from the list that the guy mentions, you have to pony up for care yourself. And if you don’t make the predefined progress, you’re out of the system, on your own, until you do. Obviously, this would never happen, but I wonder what things would be like if it did.
Why is it so hard for people to take care of themselves? Why do people expect the govt and society to provide for them?
Dec 23, 2009
Mike Beacom
This is worth reading. I feel like the author has nailed his analysis with a clarity and brevity that others discussing similar issues have not.
http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/23/there-aint-no-such-thing-as-a
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